Antique Seth Thomas Pillar & Scroll Clock, 30 Hour T&S, Original Glasses, Runs!
Antique Seth Thomas Pillar & Scroll Clock, 30 Hour T&S, Original Glasses, Runs!
SOLD $520.00 Sold: Mar 4, 2024 on eBayOriginal Listing Description
This is a Seth Thomas Pillar and Scroll clock, ca. 1825-1830. It is currently working . Antique Seth Thomas Pillar & Scroll Clock, 30 Hour T&S, Original Glasses, Runs! Antique Seth Thomas Pillar & Scroll Clock, 30 Hour T&S, Original Glasses, Runs! Click images to enlarge Description Heritage Matters SETH THOMAS PILLAR & SCROLL CLOCK ORIGINAL CASE, MOVEMENT, & MOST PARTS 30 HOUR T&S CIRCA 1825 - 1830 This is an antique Seth Thomas "Pillar and Scroll" clock, made circa 1825-1830. The finials are reproductions, the numerals on the dial have been strengthened (good job of it), and the lower glass has been repainted in place (fair job, not great), but as far as I can tell, everything else is original! The movement appears to be the standard Seth Thomas movement, Snowdon Taylor's subtype 1.513, and I believe it to be original to this case. The tips of the upper scrolls are good, with NO repairs evident. The original lock is present, but does not appear to be functional; someone long ago added a knob to the door for opening and closing. The pendulum bob is original, as are the hands. A small amount of the wood on the hour arbor has been lost and a previous repairman added a brass washer and two small pins to stabilize the hand. One of the tips of the lower scroll, on the skirt, appears to have gotten broken and either repaired or replaced, but it is not very noticeable. There are various old veneer repairs--see photos, as they are part of the description. As stated in the condition report, I cleaned the movement, restrung the original weights, and of course reassembled it. It is presently working nicely. Please note however that these wooden movements were made with an expected 20 year lifespan, and it has now been nearly 200 years. They can be temperamental, and there is no way to predict when something will break. Consequently I think it will work upon receipt and proper set-up, but I cannot guarantee that. It has probably been refinished, some years ago I would say. It is really a nice-looking clock! Seth Thomas essentially copied Eli Terry's design under agreements they made in 1818 and 1822. However, Terry sued Thomas in 1826 and again in 1827. Some historians believe these lawsuits were really to dissuade others from copying Terry's designs, while others think that Terry was serious in the suits. Either way, the suits were settled later in 1827. Note that the label on this clock does not acknowledge Terry or his design, suggesting it was made prior to settling the lawsuit. I sell all electrical and mechanical devices in "AS-IS" condition as they can easily get out of adjustment or even broken in transit. Even then, however, you still have a 30 day inspection period during which the item can be returned or any reason--however it must be returned in the same condition in which I shipped it, meaning if there is damage, an insurance claim must be made. Please ask questions and study the photos carefully, as they are part of the description. By the way, for safety, the weights will be shipped in a separate box. Should there be a problem with your purchase, please contact me directly through the eBay mail system. I can and will do the same things directly that I would through eBay, and probably more quickly. NO RESERVE! MY PLEDGE TO YOU: no surprises! I will provide high-resolution scans; I will fully describe each item, obverse and reverse, positives and negatives, possibilities, likelihoods, what I suspect, and which is which; and I will provide as much historical context as I can. Now, I believe that the only people who never make mistakes are those who never say or do anything, so consequently, there will be times I am wrong. There, you are covered by my guarantee. MY GUARANTEE TO YOU: I guarantee each item to be genuine as described. After you receive your purchase, you will have a 30 day inspection period; and if you are dissatisfied for any reason, simply return the item (in its original condition) for an immediate refund of your purchase price. Furthermore, if in the inspection period, you decide to send the item for expertizing, I will extend the period until its return from the expert of your choice. If it returns with an opinion of not genuine, or of being significantly different from how I describe it, I will also reimburse you for the expertizing fee. And the ONLY exception to my guarantee is that I am not responsible for mishandling by the mail system, and any damages incurred therein. That is what insurance is for, and it is automatic on this item. Images sell!Get Supersized Images & Free Image HostingCreate your brand with Auctiva sCustomizable Templates Attention Sellers - Get TemplatesImage Hosting, Scheduling at Auctiva.com. Track Page Views WithAuctiva's Counter (Condition: Pre-Owned)
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Original Listing Description
This is a Seth Thomas Pillar and Scroll clock, ca. 1825-1830. It is currently working . Antique Seth Thomas Pillar & Scroll Clock, 30 Hour T&S, Original Glasses, Runs! Antique Seth Thomas Pillar & Scroll Clock, 30 Hour T&S, Original Glasses, Runs! Click images to enlarge Description Heritage Matters SETH THOMAS PILLAR & SCROLL CLOCK ORIGINAL CASE, MOVEMENT, & MOST PARTS 30 HOUR T&S CIRCA 1825 - 1830 This is an antique Seth Thomas "Pillar and Scroll" clock, made circa 1825-1830. The finials are reproductions, the numerals on the dial have been strengthened (good job of it), and the lower glass has been repainted in place (fair job, not great), but as far as I can tell, everything else is original! The movement appears to be the standard Seth Thomas movement, Snowdon Taylor's subtype 1.513, and I believe it to be original to this case. The tips of the upper scrolls are good, with NO repairs evident. The original lock is present, but does not appear to be functional; someone long ago added a knob to the door for opening and closing. The pendulum bob is original, as are the hands. A small amount of the wood on the hour arbor has been lost and a previous repairman added a brass washer and two small pins to stabilize the hand. One of the tips of the lower scroll, on the skirt, appears to have gotten broken and either repaired or replaced, but it is not very noticeable. There are various old veneer repairs--see photos, as they are part of the description. As stated in the condition report, I cleaned the movement, restrung the original weights, and of course reassembled it. It is presently working nicely. Please note however that these wooden movements were made with an expected 20 year lifespan, and it has now been nearly 200 years. They can be temperamental, and there is no way to predict when something will break. Consequently I think it will work upon receipt and proper set-up, but I cannot guarantee that. It has probably been refinished, some years ago I would say. It is really a nice-looking clock! Seth Thomas essentially copied Eli Terry's design under agreements they made in 1818 and 1822. However, Terry sued Thomas in 1826 and again in 1827. Some historians believe these lawsuits were really to dissuade others from copying Terry's designs, while others think that Terry was serious in the suits. Either way, the suits were settled later in 1827. Note that the label on this clock does not acknowledge Terry or his design, suggesting it was made prior to settling the lawsuit. I sell all electrical and mechanical devices in "AS-IS" condition as they can easily get out of adjustment or even broken in transit. Even then, however, you still have a 30 day inspection period during which the item can be returned or any reason--however it must be returned in the same condition in which I shipped it, meaning if there is damage, an insurance claim must be made. Please ask questions and study the photos carefully, as they are part of the description. By the way, for safety, the weights will be shipped in a separate box. Should there be a problem with your purchase, please contact me directly through the eBay mail system. I can and will do the same things directly that I would through eBay, and probably more quickly. NO RESERVE! MY PLEDGE TO YOU: no surprises! I will provide high-resolution scans; I will fully describe each item, obverse and reverse, positives and negatives, possibilities, likelihoods, what I suspect, and which is which; and I will provide as much historical context as I can. Now, I believe that the only people who never make mistakes are those who never say or do anything, so consequently, there will be times I am wrong. There, you are covered by my guarantee. MY GUARANTEE TO YOU: I guarantee each item to be genuine as described. After you receive your purchase, you will have a 30 day inspection period; and if you are dissatisfied for any reason, simply return the item (in its original condition) for an immediate refund of your purchase price. Furthermore, if in the inspection period, you decide to send the item for expertizing, I will extend the period until its return from the expert of your choice. If it returns with an opinion of not genuine, or of being significantly different from how I describe it, I will also reimburse you for the expertizing fee. And the ONLY exception to my guarantee is that I am not responsible for mishandling by the mail system, and any damages incurred therein. That is what insurance is for, and it is automatic on this item. Images sell!Get Supersized Images & Free Image HostingCreate your brand with Auctiva sCustomizable Templates Attention Sellers - Get TemplatesImage Hosting, Scheduling at Auctiva.com. Track Page Views WithAuctiva's Counter (Condition: Pre-Owned)
Note: This item has been sold and is no longer available. This page serves as a historical price reference for clocks collectors and appraisers.